england is depressing and full of chavs

I grew up in the countryside and fell more and more in love with my country with every passing year. We just moved to Budapest for a bit to try and mix things up a bit. There are a lot of good things about this island. Compared to Italy, Germany and most other EU countries schools and universities are really easy, not in depth and way too expensive for the quality they offer. yum!). I put the blame on the U.K. government and to some extent the EU. I say we keep the Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty and reintroduce forests and wild animals. Like Vinz said below, let THIS sink in too mate. I think everyone tries to make the best out of their situation , while yearning for the differences that are experienced by others , this sadly doesn't illustrate the hardship or difficulties that come with moving abroad or staying abroad. It all started a few years back when we were walking through the rain on those British rolling hills. Too many people taking out, not enough putting in enough. This is sad. I hope to God, James, that you get the taste of your own medicine. And it's great that we can drive from A to B without being stopped at the borders for passport controls. It seems like a majority but if you look at the facts behind the polls, it was mostly the older generation who voted leave, the people who were blind-sided by promises of more money for the NHS and better help for the elderly and infirm. I tried all sorts of clubs and activities but the sense of community that I longed for was just never there. Thank you for writing a well-structured article. Consequently, Europeans are being bundled up in this debate immigration debate, in my view unfairly - we all work very hard! I had to work lots of overtime to buy food and pay for my transport to work, I was working 65+ hours a week just to survive. Vote for the party that helps people, understands and values human rights. Of course when no one studies or shows interest in Engineering or medicine, they country will be deprived of innovative, intelligent workforce. Very brave and I can't wait to see what comes next! Thatcher, back in the 80s, spearheaded the trend of heavy reliance on spin and marketing to bolster her politics aims. Perhaps you can tie a flag to it and wave it around for the amusement of your 'patriotic' peers. "Chav hang outs include an old fisherman's shed in the harbour and a derelict caravan in a field near the eastern end of the village. This way people can live everywhere and not depend on the city which is too expensive. Also your whole comment is actually quite racist. The weather of the UK is the best of anywhere in the world. Britain is a small island and we value our green space, which has been eroded over the years through over development. We saved Europe from Nazis and agreed to defend Europe unconditionally after Brexit. As you know, I am a foodie as I wrote about magical street food in Tokyo or the French cuisine in Nice. Lots of people thought we were crazy but it's by far the best thing we have ever done. [28] Writer Owen Jones also criticised the use of the term in his book Chavs: The Demonization of the Working Class. I thought this was also quite funny! Let me tell you about the art of British food. I was not sure what happened with people there, as if everyone is busy and mind about their own business. I don't think the British people who don't like the EU are racists. Like many new and unexplored places, it needs to be protected from abuse (rise in properly prices, too much tourism and so forth). Why? P.S Stacy/Stacey could be both spellings. The people there are immensely proud of their long history and are well aware of what is going on in Europe. I am from Hungary and been living in the UK for 13 years. We have massive mixed grills, meat and cold platters. No offence, but millennials tend to romanticise the far left. The weather was so humid and I barely see the sunshine. I could see where things were headed and at the time I was a social worker. It wasn't all bells and whistles because it took me jumping through a lot of hoops to be able to obtain what back then was called a Yellow Card. The one you get to see as an outsider and the one you experience once you are on the inside. What I always find hard to believe is how humans fail to learn from previous mistakes. So disappointed was I, and I tried to make myself fit in, but I couldn't. It doesnt Always rain ! Plus, all the great writers and scientists coming from here made me think the educational system would be wonderful. British people love Italy. Thank you so much for writing this. [1] "Chavette" is a related term referring to female chavs, and the adjectives "chavvy", "chavvish", and "chavtastic" are used to describe things associated with chavs, such as fashion, slang, etc. (Has the author been to 'Bradistan' in West Yorks?). Best Wishes! Cory Varga - Cory is a published travel writer and award-winning photographer. We have some of the best sports in the world, Wimbledon and the Premiership for example. We created 42droids which became the pillar of our careers. As a Labour supporter with some Lib Dem views, I cannot reason with the Brexit idea no matter what. For me, however, there have been two really important breaking points between me and England. I'm not quite at the point where I'm ready to leave yet, but I do know I don't want to "settle" there, and I can definitely understand your urge to leave. In waging this campaign she weakened British industry to the point that it never really recovered and turned the UK into the one-horse (and one town - London) financial market centre it has been ever since. Hi Morgan. I still remember the distress and shame I felt that day. Then throughout the 00's until present day the fascist tabloids managed take away what we had gained. Thank you for being so honest, sharing your feelings, and writing this post. As for Portugal and being Portuguese born, I can see that is now a fashionable place to go. Not to say travel in the UK was so expensive, not to mention living there. Great read, I stayed for a year in the UK and like reading your honest perspective on things after 10 years. Nevertheless, I wanted to tell the world what is going on and why we honestly wanted to leave the country. In 2013 linguist David Crystal said on BBC Learning English: People talk about "chav behaviour" or "chav insults" and that sort of thing. Perhaps! I have a feeling we'll do OK. I'd rather stay here in Lisbon. If there has been racist attempts, they were not obvious. Ive lived here all my life, 40 years. In particular if you get over 50 and are jobless you are totally screwed and even if you have a pension you simply cannot afford to live there. xx Morgan. I am searching for my sunny home You should visit Ghana if you can hot and amazing. That's not scenically possible. It sounds like a fascinating place! It is interesting hearing these thoughts coming from someone that has immigrated to the UK, tried to integrate to your best ability and come to terms with the fundamental problems this country faces - even down to the petty and subjective nature of these things, like how you spell "Stacy". We called it our long honeymoon. I heard the US is a wonderful country and despite its issues, if it makes you feel like home, then it is home. Chavette" is a related term referring to female chavs, and the adjectives "chavvy", "chavvish . So here you had, a student willing to work and pay taxes, and nobody wanted to help her get a NI number, a Yellow Card or a job. I'm currently temporarily living in the UK (my boyfriend is English) and I feel you! Nobody is claiming anybody's job. We actually find it so much cheaper living here than back home in Melbourne, Australia though. How crazy is that! As a Brit who has lived abroad for 10 years (in Germany), I always said that I could not really see myself going back to live there permanently for similar reasons. (Not saying that everyone in the North is racist, nor am I saying no Southerners are racist - just a generalisation). So I feel fair to comment on this. That sums it up. No country is perfect, but if you consider our history, museums, NHS, free education, the honesty of our police force and courts, business opportunities, freedom of speech, music, religious diversity, food safety (a huge problem in Asia by the way), lack of corruption, the countryside, quality of regulation, its military, animal rights, gender equality, gay rights, time zone, infrastructure, I still content the UK is one of the best countries to live in the world. I was always welcomed as an American, many years ago. According to the Global Peace Index, the UK is the 47th safest country in the world (and the 26th in Europe), well below Romania, Hungary, Germany and Botswana. You cannot blame the EU for UK's mistakes. So, the tribalism, is everywhere in the world and the UK is still one of the most open and tolerant countries in the world. Get your free Top 10 Luxury Hotels in the World ebook. That's not on the membership, it's on the UK's political priorities and mistakes, which are then, in turn, blamed on the EU. Maybe we'll move back one day, but for now, I'm happier to watch what happens from the sidelines. [7] This interpretation of the word was used in a 2012 public statement by rapper Plan B as he spoke out to oppose the use of the term.[13]. There are cheap things too but expect to get what you pay for. I wish you and your husband the best of luck on your travels and next adventure in life!!! In the British television series Misfits, the character of Kelly Bailey is presented as a stereotypical chav. The cold, the racism, the bigotry, the expense, the American attitudes of greed and money over morality, the awful changes to education, the privatisation of everything. To sum up England used to be a nice place ,,,,so I moved back !! The weather can be a bit much and I heard Belgium doesn't come with much sunshine either. The UK blames, as you said, hard-working Poles, Romanians, and now the whole EU. Thank you very much for being brave and courageous, and for writing this article. I do hope you move to Barcelona soon! Racist and a bigot for stating that YOUR COUNTRY has a massive issue with foreigners and xenophobia (and especially Eastern European ones). We should celebrate that and so should other countries. To be honest, the Brexit vote is hardly surprising, knowing the British people as I know now. That so many immigrants come to the UKcomplain about itgo country hopping and then come back, says a lot about Britain, British culture.. and those people. AHEAD of Sweden, Germany or Japan. Once the violence started to happen I could see the shame in their faces though. Or at least it was before the Brexit idea, but more on this a later in this article. We would love to rent a car and drive for hours. Accommodation: yeah, pretty expensive to be fair :). Then pop over to Lincolnshire to Scunthorpe, Barton on Humber, Grimsby and Cleethorpes. Reading this gave me a peace of mind. my heart is there , my heart is here .. Best of luck to you. The mess that UK is today is due to the failed policies of successive governments. We would love to visit Toronto and Vancouver. Switzerland recently voted to restrict Islamic mosques. Am I wrong? I know of Socrates, Plato, Epicurus, Cicero but what do I know of English history? But hey, thanks for stopping by to say hi. No government has a magic money tree that can deal with a 'climate emergency' (in a country with very mild weather patterns), literal cradle to grave housing and social care, free healthcare to everyone and anyone who shows up etc, human rights for cats etc Britain's problems are of it's own making. No, I haven't experienced any racism here in North Yorkshire. Try to set up the equivalent of a Ltd. company in Spain, Portugal, Italy, France and you are getting into a storm of bureucracy and taxes. Is there an article of apology that I have missed? Because they read too much of the Daily Mail and have come to believe that Mohammad who owns the corner shop and Sunita who works in the local Indian aren't law-abiding, hard-working citizens but terrorists, despite having lived here longer than some of us have been alive! Or? There were very few British born citizens working those jobs, and it's because very few British born citizens can go beyond the thinking that working in a fast food chain or as a cleaner or in a call centre for minimum wage is below them. I am what you call a naturalised British citizen. I have even found happiness in giving up my life as the career city girl for a stay at home mom and have never been happier. We lived there 40+ years. Weirdly, a small percentage of those were not born British so the picture is complex ! I tried to live in London, it lasted a few months. It does have it's strengths, mostly about work, but leisure is not one of them. I even learned the slang, so I feel one of "them". We are at the stage of "Where to now?" It's my subjective narrative based on my life story ?! Both Toronto and Vancouver are my favorite Canadian cities, and the road trip from Alberta to BC is very beautiful. Both children born here , is so hard , really hard . A birth country that doesn't fully accept me because I speak different, act different, live differently than the majority. The newspapers and the Tory party conjure up this idea that immigrants and immigration are the cause of so many of our problems (strain on social welfare, NHS, not enough housing, not enough jobs etc) to hide the true cause of those problems, which is cuts to funding and their government! For every ignorant comment, there is a kind person who welcomes foreigners. . great article, summarises all I ended up thinking about the UK four years after moving here. I'm grateful for your honesty, I sure know it's not easy to find the courage to admit when things are not peachy. I must admit, being a foreigner here in Denmark I often ask myself the same questions and face the same challenges. - Houses- I have seen bigger matchboxes. [21] The writer John Harris argued along similar lines in a 2007 article in The Guardian. Answer (1 of 23): An answer to this obviously hugely depends on where (and whether, given we're asking the rest of the UK in this question too) you live/visit in England, and also has to take on the idea of whether or not 'everyone else' finds England depressing. I will always be a foreigner to the world and a slave to the number of days/weeks/years I can stay according to visas. :-(. My degree is in law and I have little experience in any commercial field. Some of these guys were around in the 80's and were punks back then (the non racist kind). Buying less, eating better and having good weather is far more valuable. If you have good infrastructure, it costs money to build and maintain it. The current North/South divide was very much a product of Thatchers efforts to limit worker rights. This article was first published on the 13th of January 2017 and updated many times since. Look at the buffoon in power now. In the last three years a new filthy vocabulary of social class has emerged in Britain. I'm sad that 52% of our fellow countrymen make you feel that you're not welcome. Are we finally getting karma for all the horrific things weve done to other countries? It's not cool that you can only wear a skirt for 5 days of sunshine throughout the year (we call that the elusive British heatwave). The UK is such a trash country, the only reason people used to speak highly of it was because of how powerful the GBP is. 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