sharwil avocado vs hass

I dont know the nursery it is originally from. They have been so helpful for me starting my garden. Best regards, Great to hear! The Sir Prize avocado is defined primarily by a distinctive ridge along one side which becomes less noticeable when the fruit ripens. At best, carrying a super heavy crop load usually means that the following years crop will be very light. But Im game to attack it with a fun and practical twist: Im imagining that I just moved into a new house with a blank yard . I would still choose Hass as my single tree in Van Nuys, and Reed should do well there too. When I looked up the harvest time, it looks similar to a Reed. Your area is definitely on the cool side, but actually not too much cooler than ideal for avocados in terms of high temperatures. Its significantly bigger than Hass, as seen in the photo above, andReed also stays green when its ripe. Most of them dont usually produce as well in such climates as A types. Fruit may have a larger seed when grown in rainy areas. Mites like a dusty leaf surface. I would recommend buying a new and healthy tree within the next month and planting it straight away no keeping it for months on your deck first. Greg The Reed is only two years old and have not harvested any fruit yet. Elizabeth. Lamb Hass Lamb Hass is a California selection bearing spring and summer fruit. Theres likely to be at least a little variation in your yard. Because Cayucos is so cool, Id stay away from B type avocados in general, including Sir-Prize. I will be planting your suggested trio this spring. You might try leaching the chlorine out of the soil by giving it a long watering with regular water. Your climate in Temecula is similar to mine in Ramona: a bit hot in summer; a bit cold in winter . Sharwil avocados are the only Hawaiian avocado authorized for shipment to the mainland of the United States. Do you have any recommendations for which trees/rootstock combinations have the best chance of survival out here? Hard to say. At first, I had a Hass in mind, but found out about the GEM and it sounded more like what I was looking for, especially with the columnar growing pattern. Most people are a bit lazy when it comes to tree pruning. Because Ive become more and more concerned about getting production from my trees since I cant afford the water otherwise, Ive been moving toward A types in general since they produce better in my yard. Really it's the type A Guatemalans that far and away perform best in the cool temps. Temecula gardener here. I hope to hear more updates from you. Thank you for your great thoughts on Avos! how come i never thought about this! Thanks Greg, (Note: I took this photo in June, at the tail end of the Fuerte season, at the height of the Hass season, and at the very beginning of the Reed season.). Im very close to cutting mine down. Thanks really enjoy your posts! It is very helpful! Linda I decided to go pairwise; Im curious and want to understand whatre the best varieties to eat & grow here in our climate and my particular soil and I hope to avoid alternate bearing issues. [About our soil: it is not acid at all, for sure. The Kona Sharwil Avocado is a pear-shaped fruit that is green when ripe. (Not that Pinkerton avocados arent delicious though. i have small seedlings of sir prize, stewart, lamb hass, and some hybrid unknown from home depot. I would plant a Hass if I were you. Thanks for the kind words. Edranol, Ettinger, Sharwil and Zutano demonstrated a closer timing to Hass than Bacon, Fuerte and Shepard . Is there a simpler way. I also gave some wood to others up here who are much better at grafting in case the tree disappears. Weve got room for one, or maybe 2, avocados. If your Reed is on Dusa and its doing well so far, then I would get those other trees on Dusa too. So with just these two trees, Id have the highest quality avocados in the world for most months of the year. Medium spreading canopy. It generates more than $1 billion a year in revenues in the U.S. And it all started with one tree planted by a postman in his own backyard. You mentioned stopping to see friends in O B. The tree is vigorous and upright, but apparently can be keep to about 2.5 metres in height by intensive pruning. It seems that I should have bought the first Ettinger I saw five years ago. Taste Ive read is great. On your south-facing slope it might not be as happy. I love my Hass. I hesitate to even talk about the taste of Kahaluu since Ive only eaten one. We should be able to figure out how to make one work. Avocados have been grown in neighboring Spain for a very long time, and I know there are nurseries there. All avocado varieties need roughly the same care. I like the combination of Pinkerton and Lamb; that makes a lot of sense in terms of tree size and complementary seasons. A couple other options might be Fuerte and Bacon. The fruit is very similar to the Hass Avocado, except this variety is larger and has a longer shelf life. This is finally my update. Weve been in our San Diego (San Carlos) home a year and are finalizing landscaping. It doesnt make great guacamole, but its excellent on sandwiches and in smoothies. Pinkerton seems to never drop fruit in the heat. I have to do that with my avocados here in Sunset Zone 20 too. I am curious what your recommendation and thoughts are for year around great tasting avocados from my backyard in Tustin. This is important information indeed. What would you recommend? Pollinators for the Avocado - Sharwill (B) Cross pollinate with one of these varieties for fruit set Avocado - Hass (A) $ 54.00 ($54.00-$79.00 choose a size) Most popular variety due to both its superior taste and excellent keeping qualities. I really appreciate reading your expert advice and opinion about your experiences. I completely understand and I agree. I havent seen it with my own two eyes growing in a location quite as hot as Norco. Following your advice, I have planted 5 Hass trees, 1 Fuerte, 1 Reed, and 1 Sir prize. Hi Joseph, The purpose behind the mass flowering is to encourage visits by pollen vectors. Thanks again. Funny thing is that Hass was once an outsider. Thanks! Is there something I can do to prevent the drop, or is it just survival of the fittest? Ps. I dont usually talk about high density because its a term that commercial growers use whereas my website is oriented toward home gardeners. Wrapping the trees creates an oven. Do you like its eating qualities about as well as Sharwil? So even though I had anticipated buying for a few months, it seems that the winter avocado is more expensive, historically. The tree looks good and very healthy!!!!!! Yes, I like Nabal. I have many thoughts on this topic, but dont have the experience so I am curious to get your thoughts on this! Daily 11 Avocado. Would you still recommend a Hass and Reed for us? More than half the fat in avocados is the healthy monounsaturated fat (the type in olive oil) and saturated fat is minimal. You can always try a Hass too, and just prune it to the size you want. The fruit must be of good size. I hope you didnt get snow where you are, because a few weeks ago when I was there, it was COLD and rainy. What a wonderful gift! When you put a thick layer of tree trimmings down, do you turn them to allow air to circulate? What comes to mind is that Fuerte has a more distinctive flavor. I have never tasted anything but supermarket Hass from distant lands so all I can do is read or watch videos of people describing how each variety tastes like. I sure am no botanist)))). Australia's avocado industry is largely populated by two varieties: Hass and Shepard. I have Lamb, Pinkerton, Reed, Mexicola Grande, Hass, Holiday and Ettinger. We are Sunset zone 17. I live in southern CA zone 10b near Los Angeles. Sun exposure. A handsome tree to about 9m x 10m, Hass is fairly cold and frost tolerant once established, and will bear its delicious fruit between September and January. Wonder what that was all about. Im familiar with Stassens style of pruning and training young avocado trees to a central leader. Is that the same down South? Hass avocados make up 95% of all the avocados eaten in the USA but you may be surprised to learn that the humble Hass is one of the newest varieties of avocado and didn't even exist before the 1920's. So from Armstrong and Evergreen and Walter Andersen, etc. Also I was thinking of grafting Lamb Hass onto the Hass so I can extend that season. The tree bears regular crops of large, round fruit of exceptional eating quality. Together you will get year round fruit, theyre small for avocado trees and better tasting than what you find in stores. That sounds like a nice combination of trees, and it sounds like theyre growing very well. When I walk around my neighborhood here in Sylmar, Its amazing how most people abuse their avocado trees by having their gardeners rake up those leaves as soon as they hit the ground. ), (See more about Fuerte in my post, The Fuerte avocado tree: a profile.). I would plant a Hass and a Reed if I were you. And I started reading about rootstocks. I just cant say for sure. Here is how some of my trees looked after that record heat of July 2018: https://youtu.be/Umm_WOoGERo, I just want to say your posts and YouTube profile videos have been an amazing tool for me! Carlsbad is an awesome place to grow avocados. Great article, Im planting a reed, hass and fuerte. The trees are doing spectacularly, especially the Nabal with 18 almost baseball size avocados on it. Take out the two dead and the one just barely hanging on and plant three new trees or find an entirely new place to plant away from the pool? Avocados dont ripen while hanging on the tree. Now I am wondering if I will regret having a Bacon paired with my Hass instead of getting a Fuerte. (See page 28 in Gary Benders book, Avocado Production in California. You ought to add either Lamb or Reed for avocados to be eaten in summer into fall, yes; your grafting idea there is a good one. If I couldnt find a Reed, Id substitute with a Lamb. The skin is green when ripe, is bumpy and of medium thickness, and peels easily. Ive found that 30% shade cloth over the top of young trees is enough unless its over about 105 degrees. Cliff. In terms of comparing it to the taste of other avocados, thats tricky for me. Thats a fun project. Its usually easier to grow an avocado tree in the ground than to keep one healthy in a container. (rpondu) Blogue Fruits et Lgumes. I found several great articles: http://www.avocadosource.com/WAC8/Section_02/DeVilliersAI2015.pdf If you have a very productive Fuerte, then you wont start eating much of your Hass fruit until probably mid to late spring. Two main varieties on offer. They grow far better in the mild temperatures near the beach than they do in my yard which is twenty miles from the ocean. Gwen has sensitivity to dry soil and heat. Is the white wash enough? Actually, I have tasted someone elses Kahaluu fruit that was grown in California so I can use that for reference in comparing to the others. . I cant speak from personal experience about my own Sharwil trees because theyre too young, so this guess is based on what Ive seen in others Sharwil trees in Southern California. Of course, they dont understand the function of that leaf litter. Im considered to be in zone 9, and yet my Reed does well. Then I would eliminate the Holiday on the basis of its lower production in comparison to Pinkerton and GEM. But the intention is to have overlapping seasons for both A and B type so there is always cross pollination available (I know that doesnt guarantee it will work, but I like the idea of having that potential). Thank again for your help. Its very disrespectful when people put such videos on YouTube or otherwise share such information online. I just put down the mulch and leave it be. My guess is that you can grow just about any variety that does well in Southern California since your greenhouse probably stays warm enough in spring to make B-type varieties set fruit well. Will do. I was considering planting coastal live oak at first but now leaning towards fruit (avocado) tree instead. But a number of old Fuertes remain, and like for you, the taste of Fuerte remains the original avocado flavor for me. We will also compliment with other varieties to have ripe fruit all year, (varieties including malama, yamagata, ota, murashiga, kahaluu, fujikawa), for value added products. Reed (another type A variety) was a late season flowerer. Thought you and others might be interested in knowing that Gwen avocados are currently available at Elis Farmstand in Fallbrook. Hass and Reed as numbers one and two are solid for me. I was surprised this past weekend that I found the Lowes in La Mirada had 10 Reeds in 5 gallon containers. See my post, Can you grow an avocado in a small yard?. And compared to Reed, Fuertes production isnt as consistently high. It even has an upright variety (seedling actually) with a spreading variety (Fuerte), and it still works. It is an effective way to manage closely planted trees. I dont think youll regret a Hass/Bacon pair unless you dont like the milder taste of Bacon. I am looking for a variety that would : I would like a dwarf variety to keep in a large pot on a deck about 4 miles from the San Diego Coast. This is a tough call. Otherwise other avocado nuts (like myself) might annoy the generous owners of the mother tree. I would stick to A types though. But its good to remember that any trees shape can be affected somewhat by whats growing around it and where its getting sun. I hope your trees grow lightning fast! The correct spelling is "Hass." The word "Hass" rhymes with "class," and is often mistaken to rhyme with "Hoss" or "Hozz." Why is it "Hass Avocado?" Because the Hass Avocado is named after Rudolph Hass, a California postman who patented the Hass Avocado in 1935. I finally managed to buy 1 Hass (on Duke 7) in a local nursery in June 2022 (they sell avocado trees only in May-June). Trees will be on south facing slope w full sun. So sorry to have somehow missed your earlier comment. Im watching them do so in my yard right now. But I have to emphasize that this is just secondhand information. Will the new leaves burn? In fact, cross-pollination is promoted in the flowers by the stigma of a flower being receptive to pollen prior to pollen being released from that same flower. The only varieties that I would avoid for the use of shade are Holiday, Wertz, Stewart, Gwen, and Lamb. And I also hope for mild heat this summer! If you want to know how to kill an avocado tree, ask me Ive done it all. Thank you. This time around I have white washed all my young trees and have placed a shade cover around my Fuerte, which apparently doesnt do well Im the heat. 1 year old Pinkerton on unknown seedling Greg, Im going for it! Do you have any neighbors with avocado trees in their yard? Guaranteed meaning: We have grown trees in areas away from tall trees, so not to be pollinated by them. I named the tree Lamorinda after the area it is grown which is name referring to the 3 cities of Lafayette, Moraga and Orinda. Once you have tried a GreyStar avocado, you will quickly conclude that GreyStar is several rungs up the ladder from Hass in flavour, quality and value. When your Hass avocado tree is newly planted, it will need to be watered every two to three days. What could have caused this issue ? If you can, I would go with those combinations. Will likely be going with a Sir Prize based on that fact, but Eli at Subtropica has all available, its just so tempting to get all three and just try to plant the reed on the other side of the property. Thanks for your super helpful website! No one even the owner knows what variety it is, but there is a lot of fruits on it. Oh I wish! Going back to Atkins to get a Sharwil to pair with my Reed. I have two questions, if I may What do you think about avocado rootstocks? The challenge Ive heard others in your area having is with occasional cold snaps in winter (taken care of by your greenhouse) and such cool spring weather that B types dont set much fruit. Option 1: Reed. Bonny Doon Avocado. Once budwood is available without using the mother tree I will share more on the Lamorinda. But at least it was grown in Southern California. Variety: Flower Type: Taste (subjective) Fruit Size: Fruit Color: Fruit Shape: Skin: Oil % Fruit Season (Irvine) Tree Size: Remarks: Anaheim: A: good: 18-32 oz: green . Although I enjoy the diversity of tastes in most all avocado varieties, theres something about Fuerte fruits that hit the target for me. That was very encouraging. The farmer found GEM to do very well on Toro Canyon and Duke 7 rootstock in his soil, however. Thanks Greg! Its great for grapes and pomegranates, harsh for avocados. Who knows? What do you think? GEM and Carmen will both satisfy you, Im sure of it. Fuerte. Adam Tropics is located in the center of Temecula, we offer many varieties, Gem is a new type very similar to Hass Avocado in tree shape and quality of fruits but mature trees grow a little smaller than . Eventually we could put up a larger greenhouse, but Im hoping that we can proceed without having to do that. Thanks for all the resources. I have a space there where its convenient for them to dump. 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